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Alebu
Pulcino

Italy
84 Posts

Posted - 18/06/2020 :  20:44:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As far as I can see, looking to the waypoint files exported from current Seeyou release, the CUP format has been upgraded introducing few new fields: rwwidth, userdata, pics.

Previous format
name,code,country,lat,lon,elev,style,rwdir,rwlen,freq,desc

Current format
name,code,country,lat,lon,elev,style,rwdir,rwlen,rwwidth,freq,desc,userdata,pics

Unfortunately, this is not yet published on the Naviter internet site, where I can still find the format dated 2018.

As you can see "rwwidth" is now in position 10, moving "freq" and "desc" on the right. This causes a wrong data interpretation inLK8000 and the consequences are easily imaginable.

No body else did notice this format change, and the relevant issues in LK8000?

Regards,

Alebu

Edited by - Alebu on 18/06/2020 21:29:41

aleit
Pulcino

Italy
15 Posts

Posted - 19/06/2020 :  09:12:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I noticed that change and can confirm that with the new format some data is wrongly loaded in LK8000.
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brunotl
Pterodattilo

France
735 Posts

Posted - 19/06/2020 :  11:32:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
that is the problem with prorietary file format...

can you send a sample file ?
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aleit
Pulcino

Italy
15 Posts

Posted - 19/06/2020 :  19:00:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think I can attach it here in the forum, so I sent it to you by email
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BravoLima
Aquilotto

Netherlands
205 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2020 :  10:02:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As far as I can tell, there is only a problem with the data after "rwlen". For example, no frequency is shown in the map.
The turning point position and elevation is displayed correctly.

Will the next beta version (or the long-awaited stable version) receive a cup format upgrade?

Edited by - BravoLima on 26/06/2020 10:03:01
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AlphaLima
Moderator

Germany
1861 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2020 :  10:22:38  Show Profile  Visit AlphaLima's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Without a sample file, we can't do anything. We don't have SeeYou!

Edited by - AlphaLima on 26/06/2020 10:23:02
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BravoLima
Aquilotto

Netherlands
205 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2020 :  10:50:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AlphaLima

Without a sample file, we can't do anything. We don't have SeeYou!




See this dropboxlink for my basic waypoint file of The Netherlands: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h8ovofdqnljfoh4/AAC9kqOv43GH3kAoO9d4xMKga?dl=0

Added "txt" to the cup extension to make it a textfile (remove txt and it is cup again).
(OF = Old Format / NF = New Format)

Edited by - BravoLima on 27/06/2020 08:58:14
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brunotl
Pterodattilo

France
735 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2020 :  11:04:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AlphaLima

Without a sample file, we can't do anything. We don't have SeeYou!



files was added to this issue :
https://github.com/LK8000/LK8000/issues/1466
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davesalmon
Pterodattilo

United Kingdom
1544 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2020 :  13:49:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A few years ago I started to use .cup files rather than the WinPilot2 format. However this put the TP name on the map rather than the trigraph (Code) we use in the UK. So I used Excel and a csv file to move the Code to be the first field on the line, which then showed it up on the map. Since then Tim Newport-Peace has devised a small program that does this transformation at the click of a button. So the .cup file can be manipulated if needed.
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BravoLima
Aquilotto

Netherlands
205 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2020 :  15:58:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also used EXCEL to change the new cup format into an old cup format file.
It took some effort to place the commas and quotation marks and to save it again as a cup file, but in the end it worked out fine.

Edited by - BravoLima on 26/06/2020 15:59:31
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