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JBlyth
Aquilotto

Australia
211 Posts

Posted - 16/05/2020 :  09:12:20  Show Profile  Visit JBlyth's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Everyone will be very happy to know that Bre901 over at the Condor Forum has modified his CaTaCo program to now work successfully when exporting Condor Tasks to LK8000. For the moment it is in Beta, but you can get it from here for the moemnt:-
https://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=19754&sid=e266074e0193a40c6708d7fabff8c6ad&start=45#p170573

I am using Folder Sync on my Android phone to copy the relevant files over from my LK8000 PC installation, which I keep in a Dropbox folder.

Cheers
John in Sunny Carnarvon - Western Australia

Bre901
Pulcino

France
34 Posts

Posted - 17/06/2020 :  14:19:03  Show Profile  Visit Bre901's Homepage  Reply with Quote
CoTaCo Version 3.0 is now available on the webpage : https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/index.html#CoTaCo

Please do not use Google Drive links anymore

If you have already installed V3RC1, no need to download it again as nothing has been changed.

Version 3.1 will feature AATs for LK8000 and some minor improvements for XCSoar, it will be available in the coming weeks.

If you have suggestions, don't wait !

Edited by - Bre901 on 17/06/2020 19:25:04
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parapenT1sta
Pterodattilo

Portugal
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Posted - 17/06/2020 :  18:06:13  Show Profile  Visit parapenT1sta's Homepage  Click to see parapenT1sta's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Great news! :)
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Bre901
Pulcino

France
34 Posts

Posted - 19/06/2020 :  10:04:33  Show Profile  Visit Bre901's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A bug has been detected:

if you want to convert a flight plan for LK8000, CoTaCo crashes if it finds an empty "description" field in the .cup file (this is the case for the files stored by Condor in the DOCUMENTS\Condor\Turnpoint folder).

The corrected version (V3.0.1) has been put online.

If you are not using LK8000 or XCSoar with the -chkwp option, you can continue to use V3.0.0

Sorry for the inconvenience
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Bre901
Pulcino

France
34 Posts

Posted - 13/07/2020 :  10:44:10  Show Profile  Visit Bre901's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Version 3.1 beta is available for tests :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zy9g6qJD67ttAKeMtMz2QllfWdaOhn5X/view?usp=sharing

New functionalities :
- AAT for LK8000
- start height margin (XCSoar & LK8000)
- XCSoar : support for Maps folder

The documentation has not been updated yet

Edited by - Bre901 on 13/07/2020 10:44:54
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Bre901
Pulcino

France
34 Posts

Posted - 13/07/2020 :  16:04:16  Show Profile  Visit Bre901's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Beta 2 is on the drive : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GnfOhuqVQcjsK4ZqOr2GcrR9QuSmuvgb/view?usp=sharing
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parapenT1sta
Pterodattilo

Portugal
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Posted - 13/07/2020 :  20:35:04  Show Profile  Visit parapenT1sta's Homepage  Click to see parapenT1sta's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much!
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JBlyth
Aquilotto

Australia
211 Posts

Posted - 15/07/2020 :  08:51:33  Show Profile  Visit JBlyth's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Bre901,

Great work in including AAT tasks. I just looked at the latest version, and perhaps there is one small change that could be made.

In LK8000 the AAT could be set to ON in the task edit page of LK8000 by changing the line:-

<lk-task type="Default">
to
<lk-task type="AAT">

This would then turn on the AAT on the task settings automatically.

All the very best,

John in Sunny Carnarvon - Western Australia
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Bre901
Pulcino

France
34 Posts

Posted - 15/07/2020 :  11:00:26  Show Profile  Visit Bre901's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It does this if the AAT mode is activated in CoTaCo (see the manual)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<lk-task type="AAT" >
        <options auto-advance="true" length="90.00" >
                <rules>
                        <finish fai-height="false" min-height="0" />
                        <start max-height="0" max-height-margin="0" max-speed="0" max-speed-margin="0" height-ref="AGL" />
                </rules>
        </options>
        <taskpoints>
                <point idx="0" name="TASB Taupo Start" type="line" radius="5000.00" lock="false" offset-radius="0.0" offset-radial="0.0" />
                <point idx="1" name="NOBO Northern Bo" type="circle" radius="20000.00" lock="false" offset-radius="0.0" offset-radial="0.0" />
                <point idx="2" name="HODD Hoddle Rd A" type="circle" radius="20000.00" lock="false" offset-radius="0.0" offset-radial="0.0" />
                <point idx="3" name="WASD Waituhi Sad" type="circle" radius="25000.00" lock="false" offset-radius="0.0" offset-radial="0.0" />
                <point idx="4" name="POIH Poihipi AS" type="circle" radius="10000.00" lock="false" offset-radius="0.0" offset-radial="0.0" />
                <point idx="5" name="TAFS Taupo Finis" type="circle" radius="3000.00" lock="false" offset-radius="0.0" offset-radial="0.0" />
        </taskpoints>
        <waypoints>
                <point name="TASB Taupo Start" latitude="-38.630516" longitude="176.213074" altitude="341" flags="1" format="2" style="1" />
                <point name="NOBO Northern Bo" latitude="-38.346733" longitude="176.519913" altitude="527" flags="1" format="2" style="1" />
                <point name="HODD Hoddle Rd A" latitude="-38.312401" longitude="175.542145" altitude="562" flags="1" format="2" style="1" />
                <point name="WASD Waituhi Sad" latitude="-38.860428" longitude="175.536926" altitude="869" flags="1" format="2" style="1" />
                <point name="POIH Poihipi AS" latitude="-38.520802" longitude="175.835693" altitude="463" flags="1" format="2" style="1" />
                <point name="TAFS Taupo Finis" latitude="-38.665218" longitude="176.131119" altitude="460" flags="1" format="2" style="1" />
        </waypoints>
</lk-task>
<!-- created by CoTaCo V 3.0.2.0 -->


Edited by - Bre901 on 15/07/2020 11:02:52
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JBlyth
Aquilotto

Australia
211 Posts

Posted - 17/07/2020 :  07:59:35  Show Profile  Visit JBlyth's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah ha, Bre901,

The old "Read the Manual" trick. I did that and changed the AAT ini setting to AAT=1!

Would it be worth a small modification to your program such as if the AAT Task Time was set to zero, it was treated as a non-AAT task?

It appears that the ini file needs to be edited prior to use if the user wants to process a non-AAT task next time. Have I misinterpreted the need to do that that?

I have worked around it with a little VBA pre-script to ask if the task is an AAT and write the CoTaCO.ini to suit. My post-CaToCa script then renames the Default-AAT.lkt back to Default.lkt so I don't have to manually load the Default-AAT.lkt file when LK8000 is run.

I must say the CaToCa program is really helpful, as some Condor 2 races publish the task only a few minutes before the race starts. Being able to quickly convert the Condor task to LK8000 in a few seconds is a fantastic boon!

Cheers
John in Sunny Carnarvon - Western Australia

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Bre901
Pulcino

France
34 Posts

Posted - 17/07/2020 :  17:17:12  Show Profile  Visit Bre901's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JBlyth

Ah ha, Bre901,

The old "Read the Manual" trick. I did that and changed the AAT ini setting to AAT=1!

Would it be worth a small modification to your program such as if the AAT Task Time was set to zero, it was treated as a non-AAT task?

I did actually program something even simpler, and it is even written in the ... manual :
quote:
... activate AAT in the CoTaCo.ini file, it is then possible to de-activate temporarily that mode by clicking [Cancel] in the AAT time popup window

quote:
It appears that the ini file needs to be edited prior to use if the user wants to process a non-AAT task next time. Have I misinterpreted the need to do that that?
No, but the above mentioned trick does the job as well
quote:
I have worked around it with a little VBA pre-script to ask if the task is an AAT and write the CoTaCO.ini to suit. My post-CaToCa script then renames the Default-AAT.lkt back to Default.lkt so I don't have to manually load the Default-AAT.lkt file when LK8000 is run.

If you are using a .bat script, no need to edit the .ini file, leave AAT=0 in the .ini file and, if needed, just start CoTaCo with the -aat option from the script file.
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JBlyth
Aquilotto

Australia
211 Posts

Posted - 19/07/2020 :  03:13:31  Show Profile  Visit JBlyth's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah ha for the second time!!

Thanks yet again, Bre901. I really should read the manual in its ENTIRETY, shouldn't I....

Cheers
John
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Bre901
Pulcino

France
34 Posts

Posted - 29/07/2020 :  09:11:53  Show Profile  Visit Bre901's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Version 3.1 is now available on the webpage : https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/index.html

New functionalities :
- AAT for LK8000
- start height margin (XCSoar & LK8000)
- XCSoar : support for Maps folder

Thanks again to all the beta-testers !

If you had installed a beta version, it is recommended to update to the final version as some last minute bugs have been fixed.
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parapenT1sta
Pterodattilo

Portugal
1864 Posts

Posted - 29/07/2020 :  19:44:31  Show Profile  Visit parapenT1sta's Homepage  Click to see parapenT1sta's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You're unstoppable! :)
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Bre901
Pulcino

France
34 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2020 :  09:21:22  Show Profile  Visit Bre901's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Version 3.2 is now available on the webpage : https://condorutill.pagesperso-orange.fr/index.html#CoTaCo

New functionalities :
- Autoload mode if the Condor flightplan is specified in the .ini file
- Option to wait for the current flightplan to be updated, allowing to start CoTaCo from a batch script before Condor starts
- Optional AAT auto-detect
- Silent mode
- Workaround a LK8000 problem : rename duplicate TP names (usually happens with multiple "NewTP" turnpoints)

Many thanks again to all the beta-testers !

As this version fixes some minor bugs and features an updated manual, updating is recommended, even if you don't need the new functionalities

Edited by - Bre901 on 09/09/2020 09:32:45
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brunotl
Pterodattilo

France
966 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2020 :  10:18:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can you explain what is "LK8000 problem" ?
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