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Coolwind
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Italy
8957 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2011 :  18:37:43  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
See on www.lk8000.it .
This is an update or a full installation, as usual.

Fix AutoQNH problem. Takeoff wp was used in place of Home first!
Correct mode now is: look for home, if no home nearby, look for another known waypoint near 2km.
Do not consider TAKEOFF as a valid waypoint for QNH because it is itself assigned an altitude!
If no waypoints nearby, and no home, use terrain altitude if available.

Fix GDI leak bug in 4.1 traffic page. This bug my cause system crash if 4.1 page was left on display for many hours.

Fix problem with some chinese and commercial PNAs, that have system messages (such as battery warnings) pop up
on the screen, causing LK to crash.

Fix Orbiter enabled only after 100m thermal gain achieved. Below this gain, we assume the thermal center is not valid.
Remember that orbiter will autodisable after 500m thermal gain. Thus it is working in the 100-500m th.gain range.

>> All 2.2 bug fixes are of course already included in the beta 2.3 serie <<

Edited by - Coolwind on 08/06/2011 18:38:27

elias
Pulcino

Germany
47 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2011 :  21:33:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am a bit concerned about the changes to thermal orbiter... from my point of view it now works basically in the phase where you do not need it, namely after initial centering, and before the typical altitude gain where common thermals decide to stroll around a bit and throw you out.
Is this configurable or can it be overridden to always on? Do you really need that amount of time (height) until you think the center is accurate... just thinking

Elias

Nimbus-2 D-7111

Edited by - elias on 08/06/2011 21:38:48
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Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
8957 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2011 :  00:52:04  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We cant use the time spent in thermal as a method to judge if the center is extimated or not.
If we want to be sure that the orbiter is using the correct center, then we must wait until that center is actually valid. We also assume that 500m above the bottom of thermal, things are much easier and the thermal is much wider, so we dont need Orbiter.
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ASMiller
Pulcino

United Kingdom
63 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2011 :  09:01:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Me: I need lots of help to find the centre in the first place.
I need help in order to climb that first 300ft.

Obviously, Orbiter will not get it exact straight away.
I am capable of discounting it when appropriate.

Please don't take away this early help (or the late help either).
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Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
8957 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2011 :  16:11:57  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The 2.3b is retuned in the range 50-700m . Let's see if it is ok during flight.
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Urtxoa
Pulcino

France
12 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2011 :  11:49:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd prefer that Orbiter didn't stop after 500 m gain.
When entering a thermal you are really involved to find the center of the thermical, and may be it is pretentious from me, but I think I do it, mostly, better than any electronic help.
But when centering is done, while thermaling I spend a lot of time in calcaluting, speaking at the radio, planing the flignt ... and it is the very moment I choose to loose the true nut of the thermal, and at that time the memory of an electronic help is useful. Furthermore, winds are changing whith altitude, and as I am not completely involved in climbing, an externam help would be appreciated.

Urtxoa
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JPRosa
Falchetto

Portugal
112 Posts

Posted - 27/06/2011 :  13:46:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sometimes we forget the natural techniques of centering a thermal and we want a device that does it by us.
I my recent experience during Spanish Regional’s, I found that the center in only accurate after some climbing, because software is correcting it. So, it means that we center in the first meters by traditional ways.
I do agree that in the first 500 m climbing we have a good definition of the thermal. What happens is that sometimes wind changes with altitude and we have to find the thermal in another position. So, I do believe that it would be desirable that thermal assist would go on calculating while circling.
But I would like that I could go on having the task waypoint direction while circling.

João Rosa
ASW20 CL
Janus A
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