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Chris
Pulcino

11 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2010 :  22:41:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Paolo,

First of all thanks for this very nice software. After using it for a while I would like to request a feature, which I think can be quite useful for paragliders: a terrain intersect based on current glide ratio.

Let me explain how this fits in with the currently available feature: "Glide range line" and "VisualGlide".
"Glide range line" is a very original feature, which I don't think any other paragliding software or instrument has right now. I like it but it often requires accurate data in order to work well (wind speed and probably most of the other glide computer input data). A lot of this data is not always easily availible for paragliders. Data which is easily available is the current average glide ratio.
"VisualGlide" uses the current glide ratio to draw the circle arcs, which is very informative but it doesn't provide any clue of where one would hit the ground.

So here is the feature request: could you please add an additional circle arc or even just a dot or cross in the VisualGlide mode showing the intersection with the terrain based on current average glide ratio. It would be fine to have it only in the direction the glider is heading. It wouldn't have to be 360 degrees (it also would not make much sense to have it 360, since it is based on current glide ratio and if you turn 180 deg the wind will be completely in a different direction so the current average glide ratio is not applicable). Such a feature would be very useful when attempting a transition and not being sure if you will arrive high enough at the other side. Let's assume you start the transition. In 2 minutes you have a very good estimate of your average glide ratio, which is usually a very good indicator of the glide ratio over the rest of the transition. With this new feature you would have after these 2 min a very good idea, if you will make it or not to your objective on the other side. If the terrain intersect shows you that you won't make it you still have plenty of height to come back to your starting position and/or try something else. I think this would be a very useful feature for paragliding xc, and it would not require any additional data which can be hard to obtain accurately with paragliders (like TrueWind, glide computer input data, etc).
Let me know if you think it would be possible to have such a feature in a future version.

Thanks.
Chris

Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
7471 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2010 :  23:40:48  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think that the idea of expanding the VisualGlide showing more informations, like terrain intersection, is very good.
VisualGlide is using the current average glide ratio, which is a certain value and - as you say - after a minute or so you have a precise idea of how your glide is going.
Truly we cannot predict the future: sinking air, wind etc. but after all, even MC is an estimation of a lift, it's all about estimating and guessing.
Glide Ratio is one of the few values that are not estimated, and I always love the fact we can use it also for arrival altitudes maybe.

So yes, I think it's a good idea and I'll try my best to make it work in the next 1.24.

By the way, paragliders (and gliders pilots as well) in 1.24 will have the MC equivalent, which can also be set as "AutoMC = equivalent MC" .. no more fiddling with the PNA during flight, if you like the idea.
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luiz
Pulcino

Slovenia
13 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2010 :  09:28:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Paolo THANK YOU

will be SIDE VIEW (like iGLIDE)also part of v. 1.24 ?
please

best regards Luiz
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Chris
Pulcino

11 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2010 :  10:14:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Paolo!
I greatly appreciate all the effort you are putting into making this software better for all its users (gliders, paraglider, delta). I will be eagerly waiting for version 1.24 (also because it will have the new portrait mode, which will allow me to put my GPS in a better position on the chest-strap).

Chris
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Thunderdonkey
Pulcino

36 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2010 :  17:32:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Paolo,
I am a newcomer to LK8000. My previous experience is with SeeYou Mobile, and I am looking forward to using a lot of the new features in LK8000.
Like Chris, I prefer portrait orientation and look forward to V 1.24. Do you have any prediction yet as to when it will be available?

One very simple request: As a Paraglider pilot, I am very interested in low values of L/D. Could you please add a decimal place to the 20-second Efficiency value? If space is tight, then only put it in when the Efficiency drops below 10.

Many thanks
Richard
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Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
7471 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2010 :  18:33:21  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For everybody, when efficiency (LD AVR) is below 99, a decimal digit is shown.
V1.24

I dont know yet when it is going to be released. Documentation has to be written for 1.24, manuals updated. Language support is almost ready, but of course we are missing translations.

I'd like to release it by the end of the month of course.
The 1.24 is not 2.0 because we still don't have a new task system in it.
But since the season is starting in march, maybe this is not yet a problem.


Edited by - Coolwind on 05/12/2010 19:06:16
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Tiberio
Falchetto

Italy
101 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2010 :  18:42:36  Show Profile  Visit Tiberio's Homepage  Click to see Tiberio's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Coolwind

For everybody, when efficiency (LD AVR) is below 99, a decimal digit is shown.
V1.24


Thank you Paolo

Tiberio G.- sulparapendio.altervista.org
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Chris
Pulcino

11 Posts

Posted - 29/01/2011 :  22:11:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Paolo,

First of all thank you for all the effort you put in finalizing version 2.0. There are a lot of new nice features and I'm definitely waiting to be able to try everything out in flight (it's winter now over here...)

Now I'd also like to ask you about a feature request I did when I started this topic. The feature request was to add a terrain intersection point in VisualGlide mode based on current average glide ratio (see first post of this topic). Again this would be very useful for paragliders to have the terrain intersect based on current average glide ratio because obtaining accurate wind speed and direction might be quite difficult for a paragliders during a transition.
Do you still plan to include this feature? Maybe in the next version?

Again thanks a lot for all your hard work!

Regards,
Chris
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Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
7471 Posts

Posted - 30/01/2011 :  01:02:15  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I dont know yet when, but sooner or later we can have that feature, related to current heading direction only. Just like having a "goto" waypoint right in front of us, I mean.
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Chris
Pulcino

11 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2012 :  21:13:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Paolo,

I'm getting back to one of the feature requests I did some time ago (when starting this thread). It is about having a terrain intersection point in the current heading direction (in VisualGlide mode) based on current average glide ratio. This would be very helpful for us paragliding pilots since we don't have accurate polar data and average glide ratio is often the best we have.
I know you have plenty of other items on your to-do list but you mentionned in your previous posts more than a year ago that sooner or later this could be included in LK8000. Hope you can find the time to include it soon.

Finally thank you very much again for all the effort you're putting in the developpement of this software.

Regards,
Chris
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Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
7471 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2012 :  21:19:19  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We have this feature in the sideview, already. But we must add it to the user interface to make it accessible from the moving map. Me and Ulli are thinking about it, but have little time right now.
Still in the queue, with a dedicated page.
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Koczis
New Entry

3 Posts

Posted - 16/04/2012 :  17:37:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,
I'd like to suggest a feature that would help the paragliders. So: I want the program to create a waypoint while in flight eg by pressing and holding the desired position on the screen for 2-3 seconds and I want the software to show a menu where I can select "Fly there" option and tell me wether I will manage to get there or not. Would it be possible?
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eric.carden
Falchetto

USA
198 Posts

Posted - 17/04/2012 :  17:30:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Koczis

I want the program to create a waypoint while in flight... and I want the software to... tell me whether I will manage to get there or not.


Would the "glide terrain line" (config menu 13, "Map Overlays") suit your need? It shows how far you can reach in every direction.

Eric
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TiGuy82
Pterodattilo

Canada
1444 Posts

Posted - 18/04/2012 :  04:52:26  Show Profile  Visit TiGuy82's Homepage  Click to see TiGuy82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Koczis

Hello,
I'd like to suggest a feature that would help the paragliders. So: I want the program to create a waypoint while in flight eg by pressing and holding the desired position on the screen for 2-3 seconds and I want the software to show a menu where I can select "Fly there" option and tell me wether I will manage to get there or not. Would it be possible?



The problem is that we fly with gloves and pressing on the screen the position won't be exact unless you use a Stylus Pen during the flight.

www.facebook.com/LK8000
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Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
7471 Posts

Posted - 18/04/2012 :  11:01:20  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Selecting a position on the screen is sometimes impossible also for glider pilots.
This is the reason why LK by default does not require you to select a particular "pixel" on the screen, and the active map is disabled.

I think PGs and HGs need some additional hardware (buttons!) .

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Koczis
New Entry

3 Posts

Posted - 19/04/2012 :  16:34:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi! Thanks for replying. I haven't discovered all the features of this software yet and there actually is a feature which shows me how far I can fly, thanks Eric. Best regards
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