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Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
7472 Posts

Posted - 16/04/2012 :  00:02:16  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bruno has just added UTM support for waypoint edit-view in LK 3.1.

Still work in progress, but good job indeed!

TiGuy82
Pterodattilo

Canada
1444 Posts

Posted - 16/04/2012 :  00:49:53  Show Profile  Visit TiGuy82's Homepage  Click to see TiGuy82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well done Bruno!!

It's good when we have a paraglider pilot as a programmer :) You really know our needs! eheh

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Marco from Hangar 5
Aquila imperiale

Netherlands
443 Posts

Posted - 16/04/2012 :  16:46:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry for being ignorant.. but what is UTM? is it something usefull for gliderpilots as well?

Thanks!

Marco
BU (PH-588)
Mini Nimbus HS7, s/n 039
http://www.zweef.nl/
Zweefvliegclub Den Helder, NETHERLANDS
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bo.
Pterodattilo

721 Posts

Posted - 16/04/2012 :  20:18:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Transverse_Mercator_coordinate_system

:-)
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Marco from Hangar 5
Aquila imperiale

Netherlands
443 Posts

Posted - 17/04/2012 :  22:11:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Transverse_Mercator_coordinate_system

:-)



Ok thanks.. I had a look at the wiki page, scrolled down a bit and read "Simplified formula" and below that one of the most complex math formula's i have ever seen!... and I thought the gliderpilot community was kinda nerdy...haha!

That wiki is written for and by nerds, I was lost after reading the first two sentences ("..and uses a secant transverse Mercator projection.." wtf?!)

But at least I know it is a coordinate system to define our hoizontal position on mother earth...

Why is this such a big deal for Para's? is the normal degrees, minutes seconds not good enough?.. just curious.

Thanks.

Marco
BU (PH-588)
Mini Nimbus HS7, s/n 039
http://www.zweef.nl/
Zweefvliegclub Den Helder, NETHERLANDS
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Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
7472 Posts

Posted - 18/04/2012 :  00:16:15  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Because all paraglider pilots at contests are given UTM coordinates, sometimes, for turnpoints.
Position reporting using UTM is also much faster, via radio. And it is used for emergency.
LK has a special function for that, in fact.
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rmerigan
Pulcino

Australia
98 Posts

Posted - 18/04/2012 :  02:38:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not all paraglider contests, seems to be only some countries.
Maybe it is because they only have old maps that use UTM and haven't been updated to WGS84
Australia use WGS84 lat/long
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alieri
Pulcino

Portugal
29 Posts

Posted - 18/04/2012 :  20:25:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[sorry for the off-topic]

quote:
Australia use WGS84 lat/long

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but here's how I understand it:

WGS84 = Map Datum
UTM = coordinate format

Datum and coordinate format are "independent" from each other, meaning that for any map Datum you can have coordinates written in any format.

From [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth]wikipedia[/url]:
quote:
"A geodetic datum is a reference from which measurements are made.


Here's an example of a given coordinate, written in 3 different formats (and in 2 different Datums)

Normal GPS Coordinates (WGS84 Datum)
Decimal 38.385 -8.21167
DDD MM.MMM N 38° 23.100 W 008° 12.700
DDD MM SS.SSS N 38° 23' 06.000" W 8° 12' 42.012"
Older Datum (NAD27)
DECIMAL 38.38567 -8.21347
DDD MM.MMM N 38° 23.140 W 008° 12.808
DDD MM SS.SSS N 38° 23' 08.412" W 8° 12' 48.492"


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jaaaaf
Pulcino

France
40 Posts

Posted - 15/08/2012 :  17:44:09  Show Profile  Visit jaaaaf's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry, but when I go on the waypoint edit page (21) on version 3.1F, and I click on New, or Edit, I still have the coordinate in deg/min/sec format.

Did I miss something ?

I agree this is an important feature for paragliding, because when we need to add a new waypoint, it's very often given on UTM format...

Jack, competition paragliding pilot _LK8000 on V2_
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TiGuy82
Pterodattilo

Canada
1444 Posts

Posted - 15/08/2012 :  18:04:02  Show Profile  Visit TiGuy82's Homepage  Click to see TiGuy82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Did you choose the UTM format and restart LK8000?

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jaaaaf
Pulcino

France
40 Posts

Posted - 15/08/2012 :  18:29:29  Show Profile  Visit jaaaaf's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where can I use the UTM format ?
I don't find it in the configuration...

Edit: Ok, I found it in the Unit configuration (9).
It works, thanks for the answer !

Jack, competition paragliding pilot _LK8000 on V2_

Edited by - jaaaaf on 15/08/2012 18:34:24
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