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ryszard_lewandowski
Pulcino

Poland
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Posted - 18/05/2017 :  12:04:41  Show Profile  Visit ryszard_lewandowski's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi, every day I prepare files with active (for current day) airspaces for Poland (by automatic script of course). Swaping files - especially in Android is not so nice...

It would be grate if lk could load files from configurable internet location and swap with current AirSpace and Waypoints files. Eg. after pressing the button(s).

http://lotynamotolotni.pl

Coolwind
Moderator

Italy
8937 Posts

Posted - 18/05/2017 :  13:00:34  Show Profile  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Why is not so nice from android? Send he airspace with email, or transfer with WiFi, or with USB cable, and place the file in airspaces folder.
1 minute work.
People with PNA cannot to this and kobo users same problem. But android is just not a problem.
You are asking to develop a file download from a configurable location on the Internet (address, port, protocol) and a file type for airspaces way points maybe. It is a lot of work. I would like to know here how many people updates airspaces every flight.
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Marco from Hangar 5
Pterodattilo

Netherlands
720 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2017 :  17:05:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not Daily, but what we have to do daily is checking if some airspaces are turned on or off by NOTAM (common practice in many countries in Europe right now). This is a tedious process and prone to errors.

Automating download/update of airspace files would be a very welcome feature, it reduces errors dramatically.

Not everybody has the nerdy skills of copy/paste in Android, because most apps do not require such skills..download, copy and pasting is done by the apps itself, quickly, efficient and.. without errors!

Ever had a look at OpenAIP.net? https://www.openaip.net/apps

They provide automatic download of airspace files.


Marco
BU (PH-588)
Mini Nimbus HS7, s/n 039
http://www.zweef.nl/
Zweefvliegclub Den Helder, NETHERLANDS
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BravoLima
Falchetto

Netherlands
106 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2017 :  17:55:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Marco from Hangar 5

Not Daily, but what we have to do daily is checking if some airspaces are turned on or off by NOTAM (common practice in many countries in Europe right now). This is a tedious process and prone to errors.

Automating download/update of airspace files would be a very welcome feature, it reduces errors dramatically.


Automatic download won't help you getting the correct NOTAM updated files. The source, where you download it from, is important. It has to come from an official EASA/ICAO approved site. If such a website isn't available you have to do it yourself, it is your own responsibility and part of proper flightpreparation*!

At this moment the only website who provides update Airspace information including NOTAM (updated every 15 minutes from EAD Eurocontrol) is GPS-aerodata at www.gps-aerodata.com. Unfortunatly it's in cub-format and only available for LX and Naviter equipment.

Note:
This can happen if you don't check the NOTAM's:
A Dutch gliderpilot made an expensive mistake during the G-20 summit in Hamburg. After causing an airspace infringement he was intercepted by a German police helicopter and escorted to an airfield near Uelzen. The expected fine may be 10.000,00 euro!
http://news.feed-reader.net/ots/3678388/


Edited by - BravoLima on 16/07/2017 09:58:33
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bambuko
Falchetto

United Kingdom
119 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2017 :  18:53:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BravoLima

[quote]...At this moment the only website who provides update Airspace information including NOTAM (updated every 15 minutes from EAD Eurocontrol) is GPS-aerodata at www.gps-aerodata.com...


There is also EasyVFR which provides NOTAMs and airspace updates:
http://www.pocketfms.com/easyvfr/

I use EasyVFR basic (free):
http://www.pocketfms.com/EasyVFRBasic/
here in UK endorsed by NATS and providing live NOTAM information directly from Eurocontrol.

Free version is available for UK and Netherlands.
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BravoLima
Falchetto

Netherlands
106 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2017 :  19:42:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GPS-aerodata is part of PocketFMS
I use the free NL-version of EasyVFR Basic myself.
It would be nice if airspace and NOTAM information combined in a single airspace file (from an approved provider and updated at least three times a day) was available for LK8000.

Edited by - BravoLima on 16/07/2017 07:59:52
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bambuko
Falchetto

United Kingdom
119 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2017 :  19:49:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BravoLima

GPS-aerodata is part of PocketFMS...


didn't know this
you learn something every day - thank you!
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davesalmon
Pterodattilo

United Kingdom
1414 Posts

Posted - 16/07/2017 :  10:52:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Airspace doesn't usually change all that often, so for the UK I download about once a month from WWSE. All the maps and waypoint files I might need are loaded into the LK8000 folders, and can be selected within Configuration. I use Airspace 2 for Notams. These are first reviewed for the UK using a program called SPINE on my desktop. After review, the file is saved in OpenAir, the V2 is connected, and the new file is copied and pasted into the airspace folder replacing the previous one. I do appreciate though, if you haven't got a program like SPINE available for you location, it's not so easy.
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BravoLima
Falchetto

Netherlands
106 Posts

Posted - 16/07/2017 :  18:49:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're right, without such a program it's not so easy. I check the airspace status using printed NOTAM's and use the DISABLE/ENABLE functions in LK8000 to (de-)activate airspace. I'll create the airspace myself if it is not in the airspacefile.
As you can imagine, flightpreparation like this takes a lot of time. I therefore hope that in the near future there will be something like GPS-aerodata for LK8000 as well.

Edited by - BravoLima on 16/07/2017 19:04:09
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