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clouseau
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Czech Republic
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 Posted - 13/06/2012 : 13:27:14
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Oh Jesus, what a big picture! :-) Of course, why would not work? It's just a question of appropriate wiring...
Well is that you do not need RS232 to TTL converter. |
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
180 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2012 : 16:34:38
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three photos of final "production" light holder version:
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Coolwind
Moderator
Italy
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Posted - 14/06/2012 : 18:13:29
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Very nice! One question: are the wires for gpio pins available ?
LK can already manage them, and people can configure them in LK as hardware custom key..
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
180 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2012 : 18:33:24
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Originally posted by Coolwind
Very nice! One question: are the wires for gpio pins available ?
LK can already manage them, and people can configure them in LK as hardware custom key..
These three photos covered final stage of cannibalization of original cradle. It means, that cable leaving photos, contains all 12 wires from connector.
Both versions will be used till moment, when will be developed similar solution, based not on the cradle, but on purchased parts, semiproducts, etc.
Original cradle or this light holder are available now, but each of them excluded second version. Therefore we worked on new connector only, but also on solution, which will be able for combining this holder with original cradle.
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Coolwind
Moderator
Italy
8957 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2012 : 18:43:36
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| Perfect, those pins have already been tested, they work just fine and are usable for a remote 4 button keypad (to start with). |
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
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rotor
Pulcino
59 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 17:27:48
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Can you confirm that the updated Sailplane/S001 version (dated 19.06.2012) is wired as proposed in http://www.wolf-gear.com/images/stories/61cs/sailplane_revised.pdf ? (Wiring-diagram Sailplane/S001 new drawing)
The connector in the picture doesn't look like a miniUSB female connector 
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
180 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 18:49:46
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Originally posted by rotor
Can you confirm that the updated Sailplane/S001 version (dated 19.06.2012) is wired as proposed in http://www.wolf-gear.com/images/stories/61cs/sailplane_revised.pdf ? (Wiring-diagram Sailplane/S001 new drawing)
The connector in the picture doesn't look like a miniUSB female connector
Wiring scheme is the same, USB female connector was rejected. USB connectors are not suitable from security point of view, because should be easily disconnected, generally.
Scope of delivery included both 2 pins connectors, male and female, appropriate pins, too.
Charging cables have different kind of sockets, e.g. RJ45, USB, etc., depending on manufacturer. This solution provide to customers possibility to buy cable with suitable connector to charging source on one side. Second end should be easily fixed in connector, which is part of delivery.
If you check photos of FF001 and XC001 you can see there usual terminal boxes, with screws only. Reason? Simplicity as possible.
Wiring schemes will be part of Users manual, which will be finished probably tomorrow - English version.
Another detail - black box on cables still remain, however I thought to remove it. Reason is that, that manufacturer was not able to explain us, what is inside...."protection against reversing of polarity". An I haven't interest to transfer ANY risk of unit damage to my customers.
I hope, that it will acceptable.
Another document update made 20:41.
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rotor
Pulcino
59 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 20:06:37
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Ok, but how do I connect a GT-altimeter?
The miniUSB made it possible to connect this altimeter in between the 61CS and a batterypack. |
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dc2mw
Pulcino
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Posted - 20/06/2012 : 21:30:04
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Originally posted by rotor
Ok, but how do I connect a GT-altimeter?
The miniUSB made it possible to connect this altimeter in between the 61CS and a batterypack.
Hi rotor,
mini USB at cradle was not intended for power. Only data connection.
I you had one it would not charge internal battery.
In 61CS device settings, there is an option "USBClientSwitch".
Default is "Mass_Storage_Class"
There is an option "Serial_Class" to choose.
That could enable TTL via USB for miniUSB under battery cover...
I will try that on weekend when I have access to my glider, because if that worked it would be an easy way to use MIO400 and 61CS without changes in gliders wiring.
BR
Marcus
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
180 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 22:06:39
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Originally posted by rotor
Ok, but how do I connect a GT-altimeter?
The miniUSB made it possible to connect this altimeter in between the 61CS and a batterypack.
I will try to eplain it more detailed:
1. USB connectors are not suitable for use in airbone conditions primarily. There is any lock mechanism, which is necessary for connection wires in any flying apparatus. Yes, they are used, but it is not good idea, really. When this particular connection is close to area for legs and or arms, disconnection risks arised.
2. You can plug in you GT altimeter to batterypack. GT altimeter could be connected by cable with USB connector on one side and suitable connector (part of 61CS delivery) or by free ends (in case of terminal block) to GPS unit. Yes, there are 5V DC present, but I am, let say, not willing to recommend to use it for charging 61CS unit. There is second, charging, connector, which preserve e.g. GT altimeter, or other "inserted" instrument, against overloading by higher levels of current.
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
180 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 22:14:33
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Originally posted by dc2mw
In 61CS device settings, there is an option "USBClientSwitch".
Default is "Mass_Storage_Class"
There is an option "Serial_Class" to choose.
That could enable TTL via USB for miniUSB under battery cover...
I will try that on weekend when I have access to my glider, because if that worked it would be an easy way to use MIO400 and 61CS without changes in gliders wiring.
Hi Markus,
I like to wish you good luck...but I think, that you can spare time  : We made several attempts to do it this way, but there is any TTL signal. Mini USB socket under battery lid should be used for charging or for downloading flights.
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rotor
Pulcino
59 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 23:00:22
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In short:
- 2-pin connector, for external power only;
- female 9-pin sub D connector, for connection to other instruments;
- miniUSB under batterycover, for battery-charging and pc-connection.
Correct?
I still don't understand where/how to connect a GT-altimeter.
(When I have a battery-pack connected to the external power cable.) |
Edited by - rotor on 20/06/2012 23:21:18 |
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
180 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 23:28:34
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quote:
Originally posted by rotor
In short:
- 2-pin connector, for external power only
- female 9-pin sub D connector, for connection to other instruments
- miniUSB under batterycover, for battery-charging and pc-connection
Correct?
I still don't understand where/how to connect a GT-altimeter.
now, it is clear for me, too...
Answer is B001, where is 4 pins round screw connector with counter part with free ends on other cable side. There you can solder suitable male/female USB connector.
External barometric sensor with USB connectors is away from area of your hands and legs in this case.
Charging is similar case.
This cable is equipped with 2 pins round connector and free wires on other cable side . Black, rectangular box in the middle is converter 12V/5V DC.
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rotor
Pulcino
59 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2012 : 08:25:32
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| I understand that this 4-pin cable with free ends is part of delivery B001, correct? |
Edited by - rotor on 21/06/2012 08:26:25 |
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