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soarAK
Pulcino
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 Posted - 16/01/2012 : 12:30:06
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| I would also ask for rotation test. |
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soarAK
Pulcino
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 12:33:17
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| I wonder what the contrast ratio on Holux display is since having only 350 nits of back light it seem to produce a very good result. |
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Coolwind
Moderator
Italy
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bo.
Pterodattilo
721 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 12:58:52
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Both devices look very good! Thanks for the thorough testing and a detailed report!
For the Vertica V1, maybe it would be an idea to reduce the amount of shiny metal in the frame? At least in the pictures this looks like the most significant source of glare for this unit. But maybe it is not a problem in real use? A black permanent marker would probably make for a quick fix if this is a problem in real life.
By the way, the name of the Houlx device is GPSmile 61CS (not CS61), at least in the Holux website :-)
http://www.holux.com/JCore/en/products/products_spec.jsp?pno=410
Do we have data for comparing power consumption on these two devices?
Battery capacity from the data sheets:
V1: 1550mA/H 3.7V
61CS: 1050 mAh (Li-Ion battery, voltage not specified)(68 % of V1)
Battery testing by Coolwind:
V1: 110 min
61CS: 135 min (23% longer than V1)
If the battery capacity data are comparable (same voltage), the battery consumption of the 61CS is significantly lower than the V1 (a bit longer run time with smaller internal battery). This could be of relevance for paraglider pilots, if it requires a smaller and lighter external battery (we sometimes have to carry our aircraft up on the mountain.. :-)
I guess the differences are related to different display types, with the 61CS being transflective? Is this device also visible in direct sunlight without backlight, like the Holux FunTrek 130? Has it also got the same auto backlight function?
wolf_pg: Any info on when the 61cs will be available, and its retail price?
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Edited by - bo. on 16/01/2012 13:00:07 |
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
149 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 14:50:10
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quote:
Originally posted by bo.
I guess the differences are related to different display types, with the 61CS being transflective? Is this device also visible in direct sunlight without backlight, like the Holux FunTrek 130? Has it also got the same auto backlight function?
yes.... both HOLUX units use same kind of display, as described above by paolo link. some more advanced transreflective.
quote:
Originally posted by bo.
wolf_pg: Any info on when the 61cs will be available, and its retail price?
Thanks!
I waiting desperately to know delivery deadline for first batch. I will inform you here immediately.
EUP (End User Price)/EPP (End Pilot Price) are new for both units:
funtrek 130 pro lower price €=195,- valid from 10.01.2012
HOLUX GPSmile61CS (4,3“ display, RS232 interface)price level estimated €=248,-
as posted here - 10/01/2012 : 15:50:34   |
wolf
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Coolwind
Moderator
Italy
7472 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 17:37:17
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Well no, they dont have the same display device. Funtrek is totally different.
With no backlight the 61 will not be readable, for example.
The battery consumption is probably due to the larger screen of V1, which is 5 inches 800x480, instead of 480x272. So many more pixels to light up, in addition.
We can ask which display is the 130 using, just to know. Cause that's really a great one, altough the smallest. |
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lawrence
Pulcino
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 18:39:46
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Hi Guys - thanks Paolo for the great tests. Just a quick note to say I'll try the rotation as soon as I can but also wanted to let you know that I've been running the V1 for 36 hrs now constantly and no issues with heat build up. I have to admit that it was not in direct sunlight though. If I can test more in this area I will.
Also I had a typo on the website, resolution should be 800 by 480 - sorry about this.
Kind regards Lawrence |
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soarAK
Pulcino
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2012 : 02:22:30
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Lawrence have you tested screen rotation? I can't fit V1 into my glider unless it is in portrait mode.
I sent you a PM a couple of days ago. |
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Coolwind
Moderator
Italy
7472 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2012 : 02:29:45
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| I will try screen rotation again tomorrow. Maybe it is a registry problem. Maybe. |
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Berto
Pterodattilo
Italy
1244 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2012 : 12:23:55
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quote:
Originally posted by wolf_pg
quote:
Originally posted by bo.
I guess the differences are related to different display types, with the 61CS being transflective? Is this device also visible in direct sunlight without backlight, like the Holux FunTrek 130? Has it also got the same auto backlight function?
yes.... both HOLUX units use same kind of display, as described above by paolo link. some more advanced transreflective.
quote:
Originally posted by bo.
wolf_pg: Any info on when the 61cs will be available, and its retail price?
Thanks!
I waiting desperately to know delivery deadline for first batch. I will inform you here immediately.
EUP (End User Price)/EPP (End Pilot Price) are new for both units:
funtrek 130 pro lower price €=195,- valid from 10.01.2012
HOLUX GPSmile61CS (4,3“ display, RS232 interface)price level estimated €=248,-
as posted here - 10/01/2012 : 15:50:34
Wolf, are these prices including VAT? |
Marco Bertoluzza
AVM Voghera
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
149 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2012 : 12:30:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Berto
Wolf, are these prices including VAT?
Hi, yes, Sir . |
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lawrence
Pulcino
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2012 : 12:53:47
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Hi - I have been unable to test the screen rotation as I'm away from my office till the end of Jan. As soon as I can I will see what I can do.
Kind regards
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Lexa
Pulcino
Ukraine
13 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2012 : 13:05:59
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Coolwind:
why did you try 61CS instead of 61F?
Because 61F (same device without dustproof, ets) near twice as chip.
What is advantages of 61 CS?
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Coolwind
Moderator
Italy
7472 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2012 : 14:20:52
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| I dont know the 61F. Probably they have different screen? |
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wolf_pg
Falchetto
Czech Republic
149 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2012 : 14:51:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Lexa
why did you try 61CS instead of 61F?
Because 61F (same device without dustproof, ets) near twice as chip.
What is advantages of 61 CS?
here is comparison of tech spec.
very similary. Screen size, 5" against 4,3", larger battery and lower weight speak in favor of 61F. Better backlight power, water/dust proof, serial port connectivity and impact/shock resitance are 61cs advantages. Last, but not least, I made very intensive discussions with Holux about most suitable models for flying purposes, testing under sunlight including, on IFA fair last year. |
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Sunlight readable Screens