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Coolwind
Moderator
Italy
7512 Posts |
 Posted - 07/06/2010 : 15:46:12
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The new map generator for LK8000 is ready!
I would like to create plug and play maps ready to use, starting from Europe, so I need your help to gather coordinates of areas.
Terrain will be - by default - 30arcs (1000m) which is good for very large areas and whole countries. Portion of areas can be generated at 500m and also at 250m precision: the limits I want to keep is maximum 4-5 megabytes per DEM dat file. WE ARE NO MORE USING JP2 files.
So, for example, you could ask for whole UK at 1000m, and 3 portions of UK (north+center, half north+center+half south, center+south UK) at 500m, or particular areas at 250m.
It is very important that each country has its own maps, and that people looking for maps will eventually find everything "ready to go".
Terrain DEM is NOT the same used by XCSoar: the data I am using is more accurate.
Topology will likely cover the same zones, or the whole country as well.
Topology is NOT the same as in XCSoar: it has more details, and totally 100% new city database, where small town are visible only at highr zoom levels.
LK8000 1.22 is going to let you configure the zoom level for viewing topology elements at your convenience.
This is an important milestone for this software. The map generator is very powerful, and also generates excellent previews in both small and big size JPGs. LK shall let people choose maps from a list organized by continent, and there will be no more need to access the xcsoar terrain generator.
You can help me creating zones by posting here coordinates as lat min lat max lon min lon max.
Example, for the ALPS:
ALPS 4.5 16.5 43.5 48
[Currently the new topology is available only for Europe. I'll extend it worldwide as soon as we are done with tests. For non-european countries, I am using the classic topology which is adopted also by LX8000, SeeYou etc. Terrain is instead brand new, delivered in december 2009, worldwide: so we are all going to use a better terrain DEM. I am still working on the map generation software, and then I'll need some days to prepare a 1.21e with topology controls.
Once the list of areas is ready, it is an automatic process to create everything. The terrain and topology databases are very big, around 50 gigabytes, and it takes roughly 5 minutes to go through them per each country.
We are not ready to test the result of this work, yet, publicy, because topology requires some more days of work.]
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Edited by - Coolwind on 15/01/2011 12:53:30 |
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TiGuy82
Pterodattilo
Canada
1451 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 16:26:00
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Portugal: lower-left corner (9°28'37''W, 36°58'3''N), upper-right corner of (6°37'22''W, 42°1'28''N)
Iberia (Portugal+Spain): lower-left corner (12°19'4''W, 36°48'6''N), upper-right corner of (3°6'34''E, 43°33'9''N)
Is enough? Or should Do I short it?
[I'll have a look at it] |
www.facebook.com/LK8000 |
Edited by - Coolwind on 07/06/2010 17:32:45 |
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RickSoaring
Pulcino
Netherlands
16 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 18:47:35
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Netherlands, (lat min) E 3°15' (lat max)E 7°30' (lon min) N 50°40' (lon max) N 53°36'
And if it's posible. A map of the Netherlands with a part of Germany, just an extension to the east.
Netherlands + West Germany, (lat min) E 3°15' (lat max) E 10°30' (lon min) N 50°40' (lon max) N 53°36'
[Not only it is possible, but it is also necessary! This is exactly what I meant. We need flight areas, or zones, that normally do not have national boundaries. So feel free to suggest anything else.] |
Edited by - Coolwind on 07/06/2010 19:38:11 |
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UncleTom
Pulcino
70 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 18:59:56
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So there will be no self service map creation site like the XCSoar generator? I really appreciate the possibility of generating highres maps for exactly the areas I'm flying in.
[The idea is to make things simple for everybody. If you share your flight zone, someone else may be using it as well. We have NO LIMITS on number of maps we can create. BUT instead of letting users create 12M dem files that do not work - such as some maps distributed by Tomek, and btw I have to tell him!- I take care of granting that the maps are usable. Once for ever.. So all you have to do is submit maps here, and be confident that the resulting maps will be the best possible, at all resolutions. Small area? 250m 500m and 1000m. Big area? Only 1000m etc.] |
Only Pilots know why birds are singing! |
Edited by - Coolwind on 07/06/2010 19:41:42 |
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Marshallman
Pulcino
62 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 19:14:15
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UK please Paolo its only tiny. :)
W 7.50
E 2.00
N 58.58
N49.45
Mike
[Ok. I already did the whole UK secretly..] |
G-DJMD
G-BMMP |
Edited by - Coolwind on 07/06/2010 19:43:42 |
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ybuqc
Pulcino
Canada
36 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 19:16:31
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Well, I know it's not Europe but I'll be in this area next week for training... Just in case ;) So unless you release the new version before this Sunday (2010/06/12), you can ignore this for now!
Ontario/Quebec
N47:0.000
W77:0.00 W74:0.000
N45:0.000
What I'm really more interested in, is the new city/road. As you may notice the area is really flat so the new 3DEM is not that a big deal (for me). But the topology is really poor with the current XCSoar map architecture.
Thanks,
Yannick
[Only new cities, not new roads.. but I might be working out something special for special areas with no significant terrain, such as Netherlands , etc.]
Edit to follow requested format Hawkesbury 45.0 47.0 -77.0 -74.0
[OK online by Friday jun 18th] |
Edited by - Coolwind on 18/06/2010 13:40:46 |
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flyingMonkey
Pulcino
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 19:50:08
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How about
AirSailingNV-USA 37 42 -121.75 -117.25
Come on guys, Don't make Paolo do all the work. He asked for this in a certain format, so I presume he had a reason for asking that. If you can fly a glider, you can do this math. FOLLOW THE FORMAT!
Name lat min lat max lon min lon max
Negative numbers for South latitudes or West longitudes.
Ed
[ehm... and don't forget the COUNTRY hehe]
[OK, done, but you didn't have that in your example, either :-)] |
Edited by - flyingMonkey on 07/06/2010 20:47:58 |
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flyingMonkey
Pulcino
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 19:52:09
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| I should add: use decimal degrees, as in his example, not ddmmm.mm or ddmmmsss. |
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davesalmon
Pterodattilo
United Kingdom
905 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 19:54:01
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Can I offer as well as Marshallman's single UK, we also have, as Paulo suggests:
055:00N to 058:45N 006:40W to 001:20E Scotland an N
053:00N to 055:30N 004:50W to 000:30E N and Central
049:55N to 053:30N 005:45W to 001:50E S
These will give 30 mins overlap N/S, and at 250m resolution if possible, 500m if not.
Assume TPs are not included as they are with present XCM, but that separate files will be used.
[Please correct to something like -6.5 1.5 53 58
so I can use them ...] |
Edited by - Coolwind on 08/06/2010 23:09:16 |
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Marshallman
Pulcino
62 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 20:47:38
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Hmmm,
Now I am thinking also separate Wales, which is where we fly mostly.
Thanks Dave.
W 3.02
W 5.24
N 53.28
N 51.18
250M resolution would be incredible!
Regards
Mike
[done by 100618]
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G-DJMD
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Edited by - Coolwind on 18/06/2010 13:43:32 |
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MPusz
Aquila imperiale
Poland
683 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 20:59:59
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| Poland: 48.5 55 13.5 24.5 |
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Asko
Pulcino
Finland
31 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 21:21:48
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Finland: latmin 59.7, latmax 70.3, lonmin 20.5, lonmax 31.9
Finland_southern: latmin 59.7, latmax 66.0, lonmin 20.5, lonmax 31.9
Finland_northern: latmin 65.0, latmax 70.3, lonmin 20.5, lonmax 30.3
Asko
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UncleTom
Pulcino
70 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2010 : 23:31:24
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Germany North:
Upper Left Corner: 54°N/7°E
Lower Right Corner: 51°N/15°E
Germany:
Upper Left Corner: 55°05'N/5°50'E
Lower Right Corner: 47°15'N/15°05'E
Thx! |
Only Pilots know why birds are singing! |
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Pehvehenkah
New Entry
2 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2010 : 02:19:46
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Venlo-NL 3.333 11.000 49.000 53.383
Thx, P, now aware of point made by FlyingMonkey. |
Edited by - Pehvehenkah on 08/06/2010 16:30:16 |
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flyingMonkey
Pulcino
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2010 : 03:53:15
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Come on, guys. Paolo has been working his ass off for a year or more on this. And what are you doing? Making more work for him.
FOLLOW THE FORMAT!
First the name (no spaces in the name, including the country)
then _one_ space
then the decimal degrees of minimum latitude (this would be the latitude of the south edge of the area)
then one space
then the decimal degrees of maximum latitude (this would be the latitude of the north edge of the area)
then _one_ space
then the decimal degrees of minimum longitude (this would be the longitude of the west edge of the area)
then one space
then the decimal degrees of maximum longitude (this would be the longitude of the east edge of the area)
No extra words, no commas, just the name and numbers.
I'm making an assumption here about the southern hemisphere, but Paolo hasn't commented. (Paolo, feel free to edit this.)
To calculate the decimal degrees, its the degrees + minutes divided by 60 + seconds divided by 3600, all added together.
Now, go back and fix the entries you've made so Paolo doesn't have to do your work for you.
Ed
Sorry for the imperious tone. Just please try to help him out.
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modellbobby
Aquilotto
321 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2010 : 09:27:46
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Hi Paolo, great news
SGERMANY_AUSTRIA 9.5 16.2 46.2 49.4 |
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NEW MAPS, call for areas!
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