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danielvelez |
Posted - 25/08/2017 : 03:27:58 Hello there. I bought a "Racing Pod" that has "AltAir" hardware embedded, in order to have telemetry from a pod into the cellphone and run LK8000 smooth.
Iīm trying to figure out what port name should I use in order to use the information sent by the hardware.
While messing with XCSOAR to figure out the correct port, Iīm getting "Baro, Airspeed" when using "digifly leonardo" port, but somehow even when I get some "terminal" feedback on LK8000, it seems that itīs not reading the info to be useful.
The hardware has pitot (airspeed) and barometric telemetry.
The NMEA sentences recorded by LK8000 are somehow as follows:
$D,,84459,,0,29,,,,,, PRS 149EA PRS 149E9 PRS 149EC PRS 149EC PRS 149EC PRS 149EA PRS 149E9 PRS 149E9 PRS 149EB PRS 149EB DIF -75 PRS 149EB PRS 149EA PRS 149EC PRS 149EB PRS 149EC PRS 149EA PRS 149ED PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149EC PRS 149EA PRS 149EB DIF -111 BAT F9F PRS 149EC PRS 149ED PRS 149EC PRS 149EA PRS 149EB PRS 149EC PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149EA PRS 149EB PRS 149EC PRS 149EB DIF -9C PRS 149EA PRS 149EC PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149EA PRS 149EA PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149E8 PRS 149EC DIF -4E DIF -4E TMP 1D6 TAs -5 $D,,84459,,0,29,,,,,, PRS 149EB PRS 149EA PRS 149EA PRS 149EB PRS 149ED PRS 149EA PRS 149EA PRS 149ED PRS 149EB PRS 149EB DIF 75 PRS 149EA PRS 149EB PRS 149EA PRS 149EC PRS 149EB PRS 149EC PRS 149E9 PRS 149EC PRS 149E9 PRS 149ED PRS 149E9 PRS 149EA DIF 15F BAT F9B PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149E9 PRS 149EC PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149EA PRS 149EB PRS 149EC PRS 149ED PRS 149EB DIF 9C PRS 149EA PRS 149EA PRS 149EB PRS 149ED PRS 149EA PRS 149EC PRS 149EB PRS 149EB PRS 149EC PRS 149ED PRS 149EB DIF -4E DIF -4E TMP 1D6 TAs -5
Any ideas if thereīs a way for implementing this protocol? or how can I make it work so LK8000 can use this telemetry?
The telemetry is working perfect on the developerīs own application under android (altair.no-ip.org)
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danielvelez |
Posted - 05/09/2017 : 23:39:17 Hello Bruno. Developer created a new output NMEA sentences that uses LK8EX1 and another line that uses PLKAS. So at the momment you need to set two devices, one with LK8EX1 driver and another one using generic driver that acts as as a "shared". He still sends all his PRS sentences but they seem to be ignored by LK8000
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brunotl |
Posted - 05/09/2017 : 10:40:38 quote: Originally posted by danielvelez
Update:
The hardware developer (racing pod maker) upgraded his protocols directly on the device. Now it works with current protocols on LK8000 and XCSoar. Excelent piece of hardware he pulled out.
Look up for AltAir Racing Pod if you are a hangglider pilot.
I'm curious, what is the change ? |
danielvelez |
Posted - 05/09/2017 : 06:18:48 Update:
The hardware developer (racing pod maker) upgraded his protocols directly on the device. Now it works with current protocols on LK8000 and XCSoar. Excelent piece of hardware he pulled out.
Look up for AltAir Racing Pod if you are a hangglider pilot. |
danielvelez |
Posted - 27/08/2017 : 04:42:29 quote: Originally posted by brunotl
try with hair dryer and send to me a NMEA log.
No hair, thus no hair dryier :)
Still I made a nmea output while blowing.. You can see the speed changing alright.
Also the hardware has four configurable buttons that when pressed, send data to nmea, so iīm guessing one could configure also events for using "hard buttons" to change screens on lk. Still need to read about that on the forums, so I can try it out.
The nmea with the "speed readings" and with some button presses:
$D,,84640,,0,33,,,,,, PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA3 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 DIF -7C5 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 DIF 17EB BAT FC0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F DIF 3D3E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 DIF 44DC DIF 44DC TMP 217 TAs 2B $D,,84640,,43,33,,,,,, PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9D PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F DIF 4995 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F DIF 4C7A BAT FC0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F DIF 410D PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9D PRS 14AA2 DIF 58AA TMP 217 TAs 30 $D,,84640,,48,33,,,,,, PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F DIF 4B42 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 DIF 3C2D DIF 3C2D BAT FC5 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 DIF 3B1C PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9D PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 DIF 4CA1 TMP 217 TAs 2D $D,,84640,,45,33,,,,,, PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E DIF 510C PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9D PRS 14AA3 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA0 DIF 4C2C DIF 4C2C BAT FC0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA2 DIF 6501 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F DIF 81F3 TMP 217 TAs 3B $D,,84640,,59,33,,,,,, PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA1 DIF 732C PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9D PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA3 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 BAT FC5 BAT FC5 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9F DIF 40E6 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA3 PRS 14A9D PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F DIF 31AA DIF 31AA TMP 217 TAs 24 $D,,84640,,36,33,,,,,, PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F DIF 25EF PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 DIF 1D67 BAT FC5 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9D PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 DIF 1839 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA2 DIF 12BD DIF 12BD TMP 216 TAs 16 $D,,84640,,22,33,,,,,, PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F DIF E79 DIF E79 KEY 02 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9D PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9E DIF A0E BAT FBC PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA3 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA2 DIF 7EC PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9D PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F DIF 5A3 TMP 216 TAs C $D,,84640,,0,33,,,,,, PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9D PRS 14A9E KEY 02 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 DIF 270 PRS 14A9D PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9E DIF 111 DIF 111 BAT FC0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9D PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA0 DIF 75 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 DIF C3 TMP 216 TAs 0 $D,,84640,,0,33,,,,,, PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA1 KEY 03 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9E PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 DIF 111 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14A9F DIF -27 BAT FC5 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14A9E PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA3 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14A9F PRS 14AA2 DIF 75 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA1 PRS 14AA2 PRS 14AA0 PRS 14AA4 PRS 14A9E DIF -138 DIF -138 TMP 216 TAs -7 |
brunotl |
Posted - 26/08/2017 : 12:39:54 try with hair dryer and send to me a NMEA log. |
danielvelez |
Posted - 26/08/2017 : 00:51:24 quote: Originally posted by brunotl
how do you test your pitot tube ?
I just blow next to the pitot tube for 2 or 3 seconds. I get good readings on the original software (altair), and also i get speed readings on xcsoar.
The programmer is also aware that thereīs an issue with xcsoar protocol (digifly leonardo) that somehow is getting airspeed readings but no barometric readings. He will be addressing the issue. Probably if he resolves the protocol issue, we could use his solution/protocol to be implemented on lk8000?
Is it easy to add a nmea sentence protocol to the software compilation?
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brunotl |
Posted - 25/08/2017 : 19:31:59 sorry, i have missed that :-$
reading your NMEA log, if you got baro Alt, you will also have airspeed and temperature.
with this sentence "$D,,84459,,0,29,,,,,," you have - pressure : 844.59 mb - airspeed : 0 km/h - temp : 29 °C
how do you test your pitot tube ? |
parapenT1sta |
Posted - 25/08/2017 : 17:32:48 Bruno:
quote: I tryied the "Digifly" protocol without checksum under engineer. Got barometric readings (height shows ok and change as I move the variometer inside my home). But canīt get any readings on the airspeed pitot.
So far itīs the closest solution. At least i get one of the readings. Still speed itīs probably the most "lovely" hardware feedback that one would need, as you wonīt find cellphones with internal pitot tube :)
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brunotl |
Posted - 25/08/2017 : 17:13:46 quote: Originally posted by danielvelez
quote: Originally posted by parapenT1sta
I can be wrong but I think BlueFly Vario use those sentences in Hex. FlyNet protocol
http://blueflyvario.blogspot.pt/2013/11/
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer.
I tryied Blueflyvario protocol as same as FlyNet protocol. With or without checksum enabled on engineer mode. None of those where showing feedback on the screen. So it does not recognize the pressure nor the speed readings.
So im still looking :)
did you try Digifly without checksum enabled ? |
danielvelez |
Posted - 25/08/2017 : 14:03:37 quote: Originally posted by parapenT1sta
I can be wrong but I think BlueFly Vario use those sentences in Hex. FlyNet protocol
http://blueflyvario.blogspot.pt/2013/11/
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer.
I tryied Blueflyvario protocol as same as FlyNet protocol. With or without checksum enabled on engineer mode. None of those where showing feedback on the screen. So it does not recognize the pressure nor the speed readings.
So im still looking :)
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danielvelez |
Posted - 25/08/2017 : 13:57:09 quote: Originally posted by brunotl
your device send digifly NMEA sentence without checksum.
if you disable NMEA checksum in "Engenering Menu" i think that will solve your problem.
Thanks for the feedback.
I tryied the "Digifly" protocol without checksum under engineer. Got barometric readings (height shows ok and change as I move the variometer inside my home). But canīt get any readings on the airspeed pitot.
So far itīs the closest solution. At least i get one of the readings. Still speed itīs probably the most "lovely" hardware feedback that one would need, as you wonīt find cellphones with internal pitot tube :)
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brunotl |
Posted - 25/08/2017 : 13:32:00 your device send digifly NMEA sentence without checksum.
if you disable NMEA checksum in "Engenering Menu" i think that will solve your problem. |
parapenT1sta |
Posted - 25/08/2017 : 13:31:23 I can be wrong but I think BlueFly Vario use those sentences in Hex. FlyNet protocol
http://blueflyvario.blogspot.pt/2013/11/
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